{"id":768,"date":"2018-06-26T21:51:55","date_gmt":"2018-06-26T20:51:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/?p=768"},"modified":"2020-08-23T17:36:54","modified_gmt":"2020-08-23T16:36:54","slug":"sony-tc-204sd-cassette-deck-motor-refurbishment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/sony-tc-204sd-cassette-deck-motor-refurbishment\/","title":{"rendered":"Sony TC-204SD Cassette Deck. Motor Refurbishment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>All seemed well with this cassette deck after I changed the belts and calibrated speed.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_759\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-759\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-759 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-tc-288-oblique.54-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-tc-288-oblique.54-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-tc-288-oblique.54-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-tc-288-oblique.54-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-759\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sony TC 204SD<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Then, without notice after about an hour of use, it just stopped dead. Chic denied!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Opening it up again I discovered that the motor had seized up. I could just about turn it by hand. Application of WD-40, followed by light lubrication helped a little. I was able to persuade the motor to start turning if I gave it a push. However, there was negligible power and there were &#8220;dead spots&#8221; where it was clearly receiving no power at all.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_761\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-761\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-761\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.21-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"394\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.21-1024x768.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.21-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.21-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-761\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sony TC 204SD motor removed<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This motor is controlled by an external control board. Studying the service manual confirmed that it was a pretty standard servo motor control circuit. Further research indicated that I would be able to get a replacement motor with built in speed control and replace the motor and circuit board with one of these.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_764\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-764\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-764\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.45-780x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"689\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.45-780x1024.jpg 780w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.45-228x300.jpg 228w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.45-768x1008.jpg 768w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.45.jpg 1907w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-764\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sony TC 204SD motor servo control circuit board<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I had a fall back position if all else failed, however there were two problems with this approach. The first was cost. Looking at about \u00a350 for a replacement motor, unless I went down the risky &#8220;used&#8221; route.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_765\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-765\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-765\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.50-799x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"673\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.50-799x1024.jpg 799w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.50-234x300.jpg 234w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.50-768x985.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-765\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sony motor in shielding can with 2 step pulley<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The second was the shaft diameter. 2 mm is common. 2.5 mm less so. I was going to be in for some extra expense or precision bodging to use a 2 mm motor with the 2.5 mm pulley. Changing the pulley as well is not an option because it is a two step pulley which accommodates both a square section belt and a flat one.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve got nothing to lose by having a go at fixing the existing motor. The first problem is getting inside it. A noisy electric motor and sensitive tape heads are not good bed fellows, so the motor is enclosed in a metal can to suppress electrical interference.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_762\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-762\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-762\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.30-1024x721.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"370\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.30-1024x721.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.30-300x211.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.30-768x541.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-762\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Shielding removed showing suppression circuit<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Careful examination revealed no obvious way in, so I resorted to attacking it with a blunt screwdriver and a hammer. To my delight the shielding can came apart quite cleanly. It was just a friction fit.\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">The first reassuring sign is the interference suppression capacitor across the motor terminals. Standard stuff. However there is also a suppression choke, which is beneficial, but often omitted to save cost.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_766\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-766\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-766\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.59-1024x610.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"313\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.59-1024x610.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.59-300x179.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.59-768x457.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-766\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rotor, with damaged commutator<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">I&#8217;m on familiar territory now. I am armed with a University education which included everything you want to know about electric motors and, more importantly, decades of experience taking model trains apart.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">Looki<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">ng inside we have a standard 3 pole DC motor. The black disc is a magnet which sends speed information back to the control board.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_763\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-763\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-763\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.40-1024x526.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.40-1024x526.jpg 1024w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.40-300x154.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/Sony-motor-refurb.40-768x394.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-763\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rotor mounted in a Dremel drill<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The problem is the commutator. The rings are dirty, pitted and burnt. My tool of choice for fixing this is a glass fibre brush. I chucked the rotor in a Dremel to turn it while I applied gentle pressure with the fibre brush. A couple of minutes of this got rid of the worst damage.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">Clean everything and re lubricate the bearings before re assembling <\/span>the<span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">\u00a0motor and all is now well. Let&#8217;s hope it stays that way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>P.S. for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/sony-tc-204-sd-belt-change-and-speed-calibration\/\">belt change, see here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>All seemed well with this cassette deck after I changed the belts and calibrated speed. Then, without notice after about an hour of use, it just stopped dead. 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