{"id":1622,"date":"2020-07-24T19:05:52","date_gmt":"2020-07-24T18:05:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/?p=1622"},"modified":"2020-07-25T11:55:21","modified_gmt":"2020-07-25T10:55:21","slug":"dansette-senator-vs-elizabethan-pop-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.wiredwood.co.uk\/wordpress\/dansette-senator-vs-elizabethan-pop-10\/","title":{"rendered":"Dansette Senator vs Elizabethan Pop-10"},"content":{"rendered":"

Two record players from the golden age of the 7 inch single.<\/p>\n

\"Dansette
Dansette vs Elizabethan<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

One is very desirable because of the brand, the other less so. Are they that different though?<\/p>\n

The Dansette is a “Senator” and Elizabethan is a “Pop-10”. Both are from mid 1960’s.<\/p>\n

Condition of mine differs somewhat. The Pop-10 is almost mint. The Dansette is somewhat tatty, but lets disregard that for the purpose of this comparison.<\/p>\n

\"Dansette
Dansette vs Elizabethan. Side view<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The Pop 10 is the slightly deeper than the Dansette, which is taller. larger of the two, just.<\/p>\n

\"Dansette
Dansette Senator vs Elizabethan Pop-10<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Opening the lid we see a very similar arrangement. Both are fitted with fully automatic turntables with capacity for multiple records, accommodating a mixture of sizes. 16 – 78 rpm. speeds are available. Turntables are of heavy metal construction and use a shaded pole AC induction motor diving a metal platter with<\/span>\u00a0idler wheel drive.\u00a0 Heavy metal arms with spring for adjusting tracking force and a ceramic mono cartridge are used on both. Don’t let them near your new 1\/2 speed Abbey Road re-masters.<\/span><\/p>\n

\"Garrard
Garrard Autoslim A.T.6<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The pop 10 has a Autoslim A.T.6.<\/p>\n

\"BSR
BSR Monarch UA15<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The Senator a BSR Monarch UA15.<\/p>\n

\"Pop
Pop 10 Amplifier<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Inside the Pop 10 we have a single stage valve amplifier built around an EL84 valve.<\/p>\n

\"Senator
Senator Amplifier<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The Dansette Senator has an almost identical amplifier. Superficially the layout is slightly different. I wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t both based on the same Mullard application notes.<\/p>\n

My impression is that they could easily have come from the same factory, though I know they didn’t. They have the same plywood construction covered in vinyl. Even the control layout is the same. Little to call in the sound quality either.<\/p>\n

Dansette has the brand name and kudos which brings a higher monetary value, but\u00a0I actually prefer the Elizabethan, just.<\/p>\n

Brand image is a powerful thing and parts people from too much money. Many years ago, with the onset of mid life crisis, myself and a friend treated ourselves to new electric guitars. We paid about the same for superficially similar instruments. His was a Fender, mine a Yamaha. In every way my guitar was just that little bit higher specification. This collectively made it a much better guitar. However it didn’t have the credibility of a Fender. Like I care! Yamaha make high end HiFi and Piano’s (Elton John). They know a thing or two about music. Rant over. Don’t get me started about Apple …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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